Who's really at fault for relations between the sexes being so bad

Leucosticte

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I remember back in the early 2000s, people in the mail-order bride community were still saying that if there were problems with relations between the sexes, it was because feminism had made women bitchier, and we had these white knights (although they weren't called that then) running around saying that it was wrong to take advantage of these young foreign girls, etc.

These days, people will say the problem is that there are so many cucks wanting to wife up sluts and whatnot, or too many simps wanting to worship mediocre thots, etc.

So we've gone from blaming these dyke kikesses like Andrew Dworkin, to blaming men again for everything. On the one hand, it's theoretically more empowering to accept the blame (and therefore the responsiblity) for stuff, because it implies we can do something about it. On the other hand, it still seems like men feel pretty helpless to try to rectify the situation. I mean, most have simply given up and resigned themselves to a monastic life, turning to Jesus and saying, "Now I *choose* to be celibate because it's the Lord's will" or have turned to vidya, or whatever their cope is, but I don't see anyone really feeling all that empowered to do anything about feminism. Even if people are making vids about going MGTOW, they still basically say that if you're going to succeed as a betabuxx at banging young chicks, you need to make seven figures or something (e.g. Steven, in the Shannon Rice Lewis vids, makes some massive amount of bank before he's able to score).

The guys who actually are making a decent amount of money these days (e.g. six figures) are usually becoming something like Trevor out of Idiocracy, except achieving slightly better success by making their one kid with their wife, before her uterus gives out from old age.

Anyway, it seems like in taking on blame for the problems between the sexes, we're still not really exercising the power to change anything. These guys who are going around saying, "It's really men's fault that women are out of control" are not actually saying, "...Therefore, let's go out there and change the situation!" They're just as resigned as everyone else to jacking off, or banging their post-carousel wife that they betabuxx for, or otherwise dealing with the situation as best they can.

As usual, we get responsibility without privileges to go along with it, while chicks get privileges without responsibility.
 
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It's just a natural consequence of sexual freedom and people becoming more selfish, why waste yourself on a loser if you can get something better as a female?

If a female reject a guy in a cruel way other males will sheer on and people will think she was cool, males encourage females to be cruel and dump other males.

Females generally like the situation as it is now, they are not really interested in changing the situation.
 

Oxblood

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I don’t know. MGTOW fora are all spreading the boomer big lie, they all want to return to the fictionalization of relationshits instead of accepting the blackpill.
 

Leucosticte

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True. I always encouraged foids to dump males for whatever reason. It’s funny to see, and also can’t happen to me because I am incel.
It can be pretty annoying when you impregnate a chick and then everyone is telling her to dump you and go raise the kid on her own.

I had that happen with my first wife. My sister, as usual, decided to play the role of advice-giver, and tell her, "You don't even realize how bad your situation is, living with him. You need to leave him immediately." Which she pretty much did; she was gone shortly thereafter.

Then she moved to a jurisdiction where CPS has some rules of engagement that allow them to take away kids pretty easily, and her kid did get taken away, and she killed herself in dismay over that.

I had a bunch of convos with my sister about that, and she was saying that any time a relationship has passed its expiration date, she'll tell the person to leave, yadda yadda yadda. The fact that taking her advice ultimately led to the person killing herself didn't faze her.
 

Leucosticte

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True. I always encouraged foids to dump males for whatever reason. It’s funny to see, and also can’t happen to me because I am incel.
It just goes to show, there's some tension between nearcels and incels, because incels want to take away what little nearcels have, just so everyone can be in an equally bad situation. It's like if you're a kid, and someone sees you eating the only candy bar you've been able to have in a year, and then he decides to take it out of his hand and stomp on it because he can't have one too.
 

Oxblood

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Nah, I'm talking about, you wanna break up relationships between people and their gfs.
No. I never broke any relationshits. I agree with our cult leader because he described a thing that to me makes sense, as I recognize its existence.

When you see a foid in need, maybe she is worried or she is complaining, the first advice you give her is: break up with the guy. Just like our cult leader said.
 

Oxblood

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What's the difference
For example: one foid complains, it’s usually because she is seeking for an external moral relief, because she wants to be encouraged about a choice she already did but she is not willing to engage until having had a feedback from someone. It’s not that your precise feedback will make the difference, after all you have little influence. But it’s natural to confirm the foid’s ideas, she want to break up, you give her additional reasons to do so and tell her that she can find other guys. Since everyone is doing what our cult leader wisely predicted, then the overall result is that foids are encouraged to break up with unfit males, and when they are with a Chad no-one will tell them anything
 
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