Vintologi seems underrated

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@FeminismIsCancer , I'm almost 20% of the way through it, and I haven't seen anything I found particularly objectionable. I think you just let your transphobia blind you to the merits of it.

There's currently a shortage of ideologies that call for abolishing laws against sex with jailbaits, so I think we should support those that do make that proposal.

Really, all that's needed at this point is for a Ted Kaczynski or an Anders Behring Breivik to say, "My actions were motivated by my belief in Vintologi" to really put this on the public's radar screen and get people talking about it.

These types of actions are sort of like the process for putting a candidate or initiative on the ballot, where you have to stand out in the cold or in the hot sun, gathering signatures. I.e., you have to invest time in it, and suffer, to get your chance to have your ideas listened to and hopefully taken seriously. It's a test of your commitment, and therefore of whether you really believe in your ideas and care about them, which is a hurdle you must leap over to gain entrance to the arena, so to speak.

If you don't believe in your ideas enough to do that, then why should anyone else care, either, enough to pay them any attention.
 
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Usually when someone object to vintologi his or her objections are not valid, in most cases they just discard it as crazy because it's different.

If i know there is a weakness in vintologi i will put effort into fixing that such as the post about videogames (recently updated)

Generally a lot of posts on page2 of the web version of the vintologi bible need to be worked on.

Darwinian vintologi is about loving evolution, both darwinian evolution and conscious evolution.
I'm not sure why you'd love evolution. Evolution is a bloody, wasteful, and slow process. While evolution is a true description of the process of how terrestrial biodiversity arose, there's not really a lot to love there. Evolution gives us babies born with holes in their hearts, parasites that specifically attack to the eyes of those they infect, extinctions, and a whole lot of other unpleasantness.
Conscious evolution is the more efficient kind but that doesn't make darwinian evolution bad, fighting to survive and reproduce will give you a great life experience
1. males having to go trans becuase they cannot get laid and have autogynephilia or becuase they were forced to by government
2. females being raped
3. females avoiding to be raped
4. giving birth without any pain releif.
5. you narrowly escaping a genocide.
6. avoiding the coronavirus
7. impregnating females
8. raising your children to be successful

While many of these things are brutal they still overall make for a great life experience in a lot of cases, the opposite (egalitarianism) just make people depressed and your life will be a bit pointless.
 

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One individual objected to the war aspect of vintologi and gave solid arguments
1. if you lose the war it's over for your ideology (nazism died with Hitler).
2. people will dislike your ideology if you use it to justify invasions
3. you can just lead by example and other countries will want to implement the same.

response to point 1 is that the risk for a loss can be very low

response to 2 is the stockhold syndrome phenononom, when you are violent people will naturally side with you and tell themselves what you are doing is right. People today look up to what the vikings did as something cool and inspirational and often after invading they were able to take up positions of power and people quickly just accepted that.

response to 3 is that some countries simply isn't going to change on their own and just leaving them alone can be very dangerous, north korea is now developing increasingly dangerous nuclear weapons becuase nobody is willing to invade them (initial cost is too high).
 

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response to point 1 is that the risk for a loss can be very low
Christians get around that by saying, "We must have been too sinful and that's why God allowed the enemy to conquer and enslave us."

You just need to constantly have prophets around who are predicting that God is imminently going to punish the people with conquest and enslavement by an enemy for their sin. Since, being human, the people are always committing some sin or another at any given moment, they're always full of guilt and fearing what God is going to do to them.

If the Christians continue winning wars, then they may say, "Well, even though we have some sin, God forgives us and still blesses us by delivering the enemy into our hands. That prophet who predicted we were going to lose the war must have been a false prophet; let's put him to death."

When they lose a war, they can say, "I guess God finally got tired of putting up with our sin, even though he was longsuffering and patient with us. We should've listened to that prophet instead of putting him to death." Then they repent for awhile, till the tide turns and they're able to liberate themselves from slavery, which they will attribute to God's helping them because they repenting; and the inevitably they'll get complacent and turn to sin again, figuring they don't need God anymore, and so the cycle will just keep repeating itself.
 

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Vintologi has basically the same problem that, say, Mormonism has. Whenever someone mentions Mormonism, people think of magic underwear, missionaries, polygamy, and not being allowed to drink coffee or tea. Whenever someone mentions Vintologi, people think, "Oh, that tranny religion?" Or they might think of the reincarnation aspects.

But there's so much more to it than that.
 
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