Portable gaming

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In the past portable gaming were largely about people playing on their phone or people using their nintendo switch. Both of these options are pretty bad.

Lately PC portables have improved very significantly with the steam deck being a being a good option relative to the price (compared to the current competition).



 

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The case against portable gaming
Being able to spend a lot of time playing videogames is kinda a luxery. Most people have to focus on more important stuff than videogames.

And when you finally have time to play some game why not get a good experience by using a proper desktop computer?

The PC handhelds are all limited to just 60hz which will not provide a particularly great experience.

Most handhends lack input required for precise aiming, only the steam deck has a gyro (in addition to the trackpads). It's unfortunate that the steam deck has limited storage options and poor screen resolution.
 

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The nintendo switch sucks
It has poor performance and poor quality in general. The hardware was weak in 2017 and that's 5 years ago now, this isn't aging well.


You can just emulate the exclusives on PC and generally get a better experience.

u/YeetLemur wrote:

The Switch sucks. I'm selling the Switch and getting a PS5.

The Switch sucks. The online sucks, because the connection is always laggy with its P2P connection. Portable play doesn't matter anymore since now you can stream AAA games to your phone. The Wii U had a better virtual console library than the Switch's online service games. Literally almost everything I play is either a ports or a indie games.

The only thing the Switch has going for it is their exclusives. And guess what? Mario isn't unqiue, their are a bunch of studios making platformers just like it. Metroid on the Switch is non-existent on the Switch until Prime 4 releases, and there's literally a whole genre of indie games that are just like Metroid that I can play on all console and PC instead of getting Prime 4. Pokemon sucks, r/pokemon can explain why. Mario Kart is the same as pretty much any other kart games. And tons of other games have a better competitive scenes than Smash Bros and Splatoon. A ton of good IPs are getting ignored such as F-Zero, Star Fox, and Golden Sun. The only unique exclusive they have is Zelda.

As a dude that buys consoles for the games, the PS5 and PS4 have way better games. The PS5 is getting Demon Souls, Horizon Forbidden West, Gran Turismo 7, Spider Man Miles, Rachet and Clank, Stray, and more with all the amazing PS4 exclusives that I missed out on. They have a good online that just works with games that actually have a good competitive scene. They also have third parties that actually support it! Just the PS5 and PS4 exclusives make it worth buying though.

So once Zelda BotW2 releases and I finish playing it, I'll sell my Switch to finally try some PS5 and PS4 exclusives. I hope this post doesn't get removed as I know the mods don't like certain types of criticism when talking about the Switch.

An added note: I've owned all Nintendo consoles since the Nintendo DS/Wii. I've even played and loved some of the older games too, especially from the SNES era. I've never owned a Playstation in my life, but I really want to try some of the PS4 and PS5 games.
 

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The battery-life issue
Unfortunately even today batteries are very limited. The steam deck is draw just 15w as standard and still the battery-life isn't great.

As comparison the 3080 draws around 320W which is over 20 times more than the steam deck.

Having less than 5% of the power available to desktop computers will make it very difficult to get any great performance. This is why the steam deck resolution is just 800*1280 at 60hz, the GPU is simply too weak for anything higher in many titles.

Onexplayer: 59 Wh
GPD win max 2021: 57Wh
Ayaneo: 47 Wh
Ayaneo next: 47 Wh
GPD Win 3: 47 Wh
One Gx1 Pro: 47 Wh
Onexplayer mini: 40.25Wh
Steam deck: 40Wh
 

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Why you probably shouldn't pre-order a steam-deck
The big issue with ordering a product to buy in the future is that while you are waiting for your product the competition will improve and when you finally got what you paid for it might no longer be particularly great relative to the competition. the AOKZOE is just one example of competing product being delivered that may offer a superior gaming experience.

The handheld PC concept isn't something new. The issue now as in the past is that the current technology is too limited to make it into a great experience (which is why most serious manufacturers didn't even try).

The steam deck only offers a resolution of at 1280*800 and the screen goes no higher than 60hz, that's not a particularly great gaming experience. I personally avoid playing games where i cannot get at least 100fps. Already there is competition in the handheld PC space offering superior resolutions (up to 2560*1600).

No steam deck model offers any more than 512 GB of internal fast storage which isn't even close to good enough and no the option to upgrade by buying a slow SD-card is not a great option either. Here the competition is already ahead with 1TB and 2TB models.

Then there is the general battery life issue, if you are going to preserve battery then you end up having to drop performance even lower (15W is already limited enough).

Then there is the issue of some games not working properly (some not even starting due to using linux).


I do expect PC handhelds and linux for gaming to improve over time, it's very likely that 120hz handhelds will come in the future which will be a huge improvements in terms of how the game flows. Don't listen to steamdeck fanboys trying to claim that 60hz is just fine, it's not, it's really bad.

While valve like to paint themselves as pro-consumers the reality is a bit different from that.

videogameschronicle.com/news/valve-and-5-steam-publishers-have-been-fined-e7-8-million-for-anti-consumer-practices/

Vavle refused to provide refunds until they lost in court. In-addition most of the games they sell feature intrusive DRM (such as terrible always online drm for single-player games) to the point where you are better off just pirating the game.
 

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the switch is very fun, much more than PC games, awesome games and a dedicated device
play anywhere, and with friends

much cheaper than freemium mobile games.

with PCs it's too much hustle : find games, download heavy files, check for viruses, sort the windows, change the settings
install, uninstall, switch between programs, get friends to join online

the joy cons, hori arcade joycon are very comfy no need for gaming keyboard, mouse and special joysticks

by the way @Admin describe your gaming set up
 

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by the way @Admin describe your gaming set up
Currently i have a 1060 3GB, ryzen 5 3600, acer 271hu 165hz monitor (ips).

I might get a better GPU (probably 3090) now when prices has dropped.

Samsung 980 pro 2TB SSD (windows).
Samsung 860 evo 2TB SSD (linux).
32 GB ram.
 

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Currently i have a 1060 3GB, ryzen 5 3600, acer 271hu 165hz monitor (ips).

I might get a better GPU (probably 3090) now when prices has dropped.

Samsung 980 pro 2TB SSD (windows).
Samsung 860 evo 2TB SSD (linux).
32 GB ram.
that's a lot of power ngl
 
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